Q. Using the year that you won as the baseline, how different is this course for you to play, easier or harder or what's the differences for you?
JIM FURYK: The only difference if you remember in 2000 the scores were really low all around. It wasn't just -- Franklin and I pulled away from the field a little bit, there was a lot of guys at 18, 19, 17, 16 under par which you don't see a lot here. The reason was the course played very similar to now where it didn't have as much rough. You can get away with hitting it out of the fairway. I think I hit it in the left rough, or on 8 Sunday and was still able to go with the green with a 4-wood in 2. Now I would be hacking out with a wedge or 9-iron unless I got a really good lie. In some years the rough has been thick; others it hasn't. I'm guessing we have had a lot of rain here this year and there wasn't that year. Historically Doral has had some thick and tough rough and that year it just was down.
Q. What's wrong with the TOUR back at these Florida courses this month, the wind blows, it may be difficult to score. If it doesn't then some guys are going to shoot 15 under or better almost every week...
JIM FURYK: My question is what is wrong with 15 under? Other than the USGA doesn't really like it. I don't see a problem with setting a golf course up that there is no sense in building or setting up a golf course that is not playable on all conditions. You will see that a lot at the British Open, where we go over there, if the weather is tough and miserable and raining we shoot around even par. And when the weather is good, the courses, you can get at them. You can get to the pins, play the courses differently and guys shoot 6, 7, 8 under par. You see guys winning British Opens at 18-under or 5-under or even par. The weather dictates how well you play there. A lot of that is the case here in Florida. Like TPC Heron Bay, the course we used to play next week, was playable in all conditions. People argued that it was boring and you couldn't remember the 13th hole, 14th hole, that may be true, you can play in windy conditions. In March you will get that here in Florida. I'm not saying that it wasn't one of my favorite courses or it's not a great golf course, it was playable in all conditions.
Q. You never know when the weather is going to come into play, why not let that be the defense mechanism instead of putting (Inaudible) --
JIM FURYK: Our Tour does the best job in the entire world of setting up golf courses, period. There is some other organizations we can pick on first before we went to PGA TOUR. They do it 42 times a year. A lot of organizations do it once a year for our level of play. You are going to make mistakes. It's inevitable that you are going to put a pin in the place when the weather changes; it may be tough to putt at. One that comes to mind at L.A. got a little out of hand one day but for the most part our TOUR does a really good job. And you still see -- we still have Las Vegas tournaments where 28 under wins. They try to keep the scores down. You still have to make the golf course fair. I think for the most part they do. It isn't just something that's happened this year with pins getting 3 from the edge. I keep my pin sheets every year. Every year I write them down in my yardage book. I know where the pins on No. 18 have been -- I should say for about the last six years I know exactly where every pin has been because I have written it down in my yardage book. Over the course of the last 10 years they slowly shifted. Every two years they've shifted in a step. Now all of a sudden we used to see a lot of 6s and 7s from edges, then a lot of 4s and 5s. This year 3s have peeked up. As long as they are playable and in a good position I don't mind it. A pin can be 10 from the edge but if it's on top of a crown and it looks like miniature golf it doesn't make it good. So the 3 doesn't bother me as long as it's playable. It's definitely changing. Golf courses are changing, equipment is changing and our game has changed even in the time that I have been on TOUR, it is so much power dominated now than it was 10 years ago. There is just so many more people that can hit it farther. I don't know which came first the chicken or the egg or if golf course design changed that or we changed golf course design. It's a little of both we fed off each other.
Q. Do you think the pins is about as extreme as it should get, stadium course -- (inaudible) --
JIM FURYK: The stadium course is a tough test of golf, it's a hard punishing penal golf course, if they want to set that course up to be unplayable, they have every opportunity to do it. To me it's the hardest golf course we play if they wanted it to be. The TOUR has to be careful that the greens don't get too fast and when you hit it into the middle of the green on 13 and the pin is down below, you are lucky if you can keep it within four feet anyway, but you have to make sure that you don't drip it over the edge and it's on a fringe, that's not really golf. That course was setup, you know -- the course doesn't look too hard when I play it every day of the year. You got to beat that putt down the bottom of the hill to get it down the hill most of the time. Most of the time I'm breathing on it and crawling it over the edge, I think they have to -- my best memory what was the winning score last year? Craig Perks won 8-under. Yes, I think if they keep scoring -- if someone is sniffing double digits and the course was tough it was probably playable. I remember we even got some rain last year. We had to come off the course on Friday's round or Saturday's round, we got taken off the course. I am sure that softened it up a little too. It must have been playing tough if we got rain and single digits won the tournament.
Q. Do you think 3 off the edge would be too much on that course for any green?
JIM FURYK: I think you can could do it on a few. You can do it on -- I think it could be done. There is some greens where it might not work. I would love to see it 3 from the edge on 13, that way it would be perfect. When I hit it up on the green I can hit it next to the hole. The same on the 4, that would be perfect. I think for the most part they could get it done. As long as the pin is in a good spot and you can putt to it and get at it, 3 is okay. It can be 10 from the edge and be in a goofy spot. They are trying to make the course difficult but fair. Sometimes there is a line between fair and unfair and difficult and unplayable. They are trying to -- it's a great championship with the best field, they are trying to make it difficult. Every once in a while it will leak over the wrong side. The year Duval won I think it leaked over the other side. He played it well enough and he was playing well at the time. I remember not hitting a darn green out there because it kept skipping through. That was the year it might have borderlined. The year Lee Janzen one were the toughest years.
JOHN BUSH: Thank you for coming by.
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