Q. The rough?
BOB ESTES: Yeah. It's kind of like U.S. Open rough for the most part. There's places where you get in that rough and the best you can hope for is just kind of advance it down the fairway. So I hit it in the right rough on number 12 today and couldn't even really think about trying to knock it on the green, I was just trying to get it across the creek and just get it in front of the green and then try to get it up-and-down. Which is with what I did. But there's some places where you don't want to be. So you, there is definitely a premium this week in getting the ball in the fairway.
Q. Are you playing that well that you've been that close to such good scores or does this course set up real well for you?
BOB ESTES: Well I think I played, I played good here in the past too. So that kind of answers that part of it. So, yeah, it kind of is a, you know, it's not a golf course where you're having to hit driver off every tee, although I'm driving it longer and straighter than I ever have. But there's a lot of 3-wood tee shots. Two irons. Three irons. Things like that. So it's got a good variety of holes. And I usually play good on golf courses like that. And especially if it's playing firmer and faster. I just hate wet golf courses. A lot of times those tee shots -- I hit a real penetrating ball flight and if the fairways are firm it will roll forever. But if the golf course is wet, then a lot of those guys that are all carry, they hit it as far as I do. When the fairways are firm I can really get it out there. It's just like that last hole today, I hit 3-wood off the tee to keep from hitting driver through the fairway into that left bunker in the rough and I still just had a little 9-iron into the green on 18. I knew back when I was hitting driver, you know, 4- or 5-iron, so I remember that. That's with steel shafts, that's not with graphite. So part of it is the ball but I'm just, I'm swinging better, getting stronger and all that, so.
BOB ESTES: With the driver for sure. And then hitting some three woods, maybe 280, 290, 300. That last 3-wood might have gone 318, I'm not for sure. I can get my book out and check if you want me to. Where did I hit it on 18? Tee was up some. Yeah it was like 290, 295, on the last hole. Yeah. With the 3-wood.
BOB ESTES: I'm not where I want to be yet.
Q. We have been talking to a number of golfers today that are looking for their first win. You're an accomplished golfer with several wins and the Kemper has gained a lot of notoriety for first time winners over the last couple years I guess in its history. Do you have any thoughts on how that will play out tomorrow?
BOB ESTES: Well we need to end that trend, don't we?
(Laughter.) So, yeah, I don't even know exactly, you got guys, Burns is 10? Who is at nine? Jay Williamson is nine. Bob May is at nine. Who is at 8?
Q. I haven't seen the leaderboard.
BOB ESTES: But obviously there are some more guys there that haven't won before. Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, you know, we just had a stretch in our schedule where you had the Nelson, the Colonial and the Memorial and there's a lot of guys that play all three of those tournaments and then skip this one to rest up to play Westchester, the U.S. Open. So I know it's not always like that, but I think in the past maybe guys also hadn't cared for this golf course as much. There's been some, I read some of the articles where they're talking about how Greg Norman had negative things to say about it in the past and it would be interesting to see if he kind of changed his mind somewhat over time. Maybe the golf course is -- maybe it's a better golf course. I don't know what all changes they might have made. But maybe it is a better golf course than it was five or 10 years ago. And maybe you get some more guys coming back to play this week if they knew that.
Q. A few years ago maybe five years ago they talked a lot about the poa annua and the greens and the greens being bumpy and there was some bad comments. How are the greens now?
BOB ESTES: Bumpy.
(Laughter.) Yeah, there's a lot of poa annua in them. And also, you know, we could get a whole soft spike issue, but when you got guys wearing soft spikes and the greens are the least bit soft or you got the poa annua, which can get compressed and get real inconsistent, you're going to have bumpy putting surfaces. And so I mean I just wish everybody was wearing the smaller metal spikes, they don't spike up the greens. And then the soft spikes just make the greens bumpier. You're putting either 11 or 13 indentations in the green every time you take a step. And so soft spikes and poa annua greens are really bad combination. The extreme is Pebble Peach, Poppy Hills, Spyglass. Early in the year those greens are always wet, guys are wearing soft spikes, they're unputtable. At least these are firmer so you got a better chance of having your ball stay on line.
Q. Do you know Bob Burns very well or not? Have you played with him before?
BOB ESTES: Yeah I think I played with him before. I don't know him real well. I know him about as well as a lot of the or guys on Tour. We are all cordial and friendly. And Bob is a great guy. But yeah, he's a -- when I think about it it seems like Bob is pretty explosive. He hits the ball pretty far off the tee and he can shoot a lot of low scores. Not that I have studied his resume or anything like that. He may not be as consistent as he wants to be, but I know he shot some low scores in the past. So seems kind of like a lot of players on Tour that do have the ability to go low, which is what you have to do. And I know he's looking forward to giving it a go tomorrow.
Q. When we talked to Jay Williamson and Bob Burns they were hoping that they would play well tomorrow that's what they want to do. Do you expect to win tomorrow?
BOB ESTES: I wouldn't say I expect to win tomorrow. Because you just can't control everybody what they're doing. I expect to play well. I might go out tomorrow and shoot a real solid 68 and that may not be good enough. So I do expect to play well. I just -- my game is coming together so nicely, any one day you don't know what's going to happen. But I still would hope that I and expect to play well tomorrow. But it's just nice to know that everything I put into it ever since I got out here on Tour at least, it's all starting to kind of come together. I'm hitting the ball better than I ever have before, my equipment is as good as it's ever been, and I'm starting to maybe figure out the putting a little bit as well.
TODD BUDNICK: All right. Thanks, Bob.
BOB ESTES: Okay.
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