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U.S. AMATEUR CHAMPIONSHIP


August 19, 1999


Charlie Woerner


PEBBLE BEACH, CALIFORNIA

LES UNGER: We've been inside talking to some other guys, and just give us an update on the two margins of victory today and who you beat.

CHARLIE WOERNER: The first match I beat David Olivier, 3-1, and I dormied and birdied 17. And the second match played Rob, and same thing: Dormie, 2, dormie going into 17, and then just hit it on the fringe and just tied the hole. It was 2-1.

LES UNGER: You must be feeling pretty good.

CHARLIE WOERNER: Yeah, I feel really, really good. I stayed out real late yesterday working on my putting, and it paid off a lot, because my speed was about 20 times better today. I don't think I had any 3-putts; so that was real big, in two matches.

LES UNGER: Would it be reasonable to suspect that you've played here quite a bit.

CHARLIE WOERNER: I grew up an hour and 15 minutes away from here, but I only played it twice coming into this week. I played the NCGA, the Northern California Junior Golf Association. They've got a Tournament of Champions tournament out here, and I played that one time; so I played one time then, and one other time afterwards. But only twice coming into this tournament.

LES UNGER: What were the key points of either match? Anything that's worth telling us about.

CHARLIE WOERNER: Yeah, the second match in the afternoon, we had an unbelievable stretch of three or four holes where I birdied 4. I hit the pin, and then he hit it right after me up like 6 feet, and I made the putt and he just missed his. But then the next three holes -- or the next two holes, we halved with birdies. That hasn't happened in either of my matches at all; so that was good to have something put a lot of pressure on you.

LES UNGER: Did you ever get nervous where you were worried about anything.

CHARLIE WOERNER: Yeah, the second match I did, coming down the stretch a little bit. And I hit two poor drives on 15 and 16. In my first match I didn't. I felt in control the whole time. And the second match, especially because I knew he was going to make a couple of birdies, I figured, coming in, because he hit some really good shots coming in on the back 9. He almost holed -- I think he lipped out two iron shots; so I knew he was going to hit some good shots. I was a little bit nervous.

LES UNGER: Is this the most significant achievement for you, so far.

CHARLIE WOERNER: Yeah, I think so. I made the Sweet 16 at the Western Amateur three years ago, and that was a real big deal for me. And prior to that, I made the quarterfinals at the U.S. Junior, and that was definitely a big deal. But this outweighs -- this is a bigger tournament than either one of those by far.

Q. What was your -- USC, what was your record there as far as playing, and are you done there now?

CHARLIE WOERNER: Yeah, I'm done. I played my first four years, and I have one more year of school, but no more eligibility left. It was fair. I was all Pac-10, second team, and had a couple of second place and third place finishes, but I didn't win any big tournaments.

Q. Give us your Bay Area background?

CHARLIE WOERNER: I grew up in Sunny Valley, and I used to work at Los Altos Country Club, and I worked at Stanford throughout almost my entire high school career. And then we moved to Los Altos my junior year in high school.

Q. Did you want to go to Stanford?

CHARLIE WOERNER: A little bit, yeah, but 3.0 GPA is not going to get you in.

Q. Did you work with Brian at all?

CHARLIE WOERNER: No. But he's given me a great opportunity to practice. He let's me go out and work on my short game a couple of times a year when I'm home. I work with a guy right now named Will Neal down in LA. He's from Florida, and he just moved to LA.

Q. Charlie, it's been a situation more often than not that no one wins the U.S. Amateur without a little bit of luck. Would you point to your first round match as -- as a perfect example of that?

CHARLIE WOERNER: Yeah, by far. That was unbelievable. If you shoot low 80S, I mean come on, you know. I can't believe I won that match. But it worked out. Yeah, definitely. Like they said, if you're going to play five matches or whatever it is that you need to play to win the tournament, six matches, you're not going to play perfect golf for however many holes that is. You're going to need somebody to kind of lay down. Hopefully, that was it.

Q. What are you thinking as that match is unfolding: Sooner or later one of us has to start playing better?

CHARLIE WOERNER: Well, I was actually 4- or 5-up with five holes to go. I think it was 4-up with five holes to go, and I wasn't playing good golf by any means. But at least I played a stretch there where I was in control of my game, and maybe 1-over for a stretch of ten holes or something like that. So I expected to finish the last few holes solid; hit the green and make some pars, but it didn't happen.

Q. Is that the (inaudible) of match play?

CHARLIE WOERNER: Yeah, because par becomes totally irrelevant -- your score becomes totally irrelevant. You try to put your opponent out of mind and just play for pars. But sometimes when he's in position to make a bogey or double or something, obviously that overtakes it; so sometimes scores are irrelevant. You look at the score, and maybe it was like 82 or 83 or whatever it was, but some of those were bogeys where I was playing for bogey.

Q. Jack Nicklaus complained when we were losing the Ryder Cup and things, and one of the problems is a lot of colleges now, there used to be a lot more match play, and most of it is now stroke-play. And you face a different kind of pressure, obviously. Did you play much match play in college?

CHARLIE WOERNER: Not in college, but as a Junior, I had a really good match play record, and I always have. Like I said, the quarter finals at the U.S. Junior, semifinals at the Western Junior. I played in a tournament called the Cannon Cup when I was a Junior, and I won all four matches there. But I haven't played much match play since then. In college, really, you don't play any match play. There's one tournament that you play, I don't remember the name of it, but there's one in Florida, it was, and we played match play, but that was it.

Q. Do you think it takes a different type of psyche and character to play match play than it does stroke-play?

CHARLIE WOERNER: Yeah, definitely. You don't want to show any emotion. When you're playing medal play, it's okay to get pumped up and pump your fist and that. But you almost want your opponent to think: Oh, my God, this guy doesn't -- he doesn't care what happens. He's going to march on and make pars. He birdied the last hole, but he's going to par the next hole. It doesn't matter what the opponent is thinking. You definitely have an effect on the other guy in match play.

Q. Charlie, with no more college eligibility, what's your future look like or what do you plan to do?

CHARLIE WOERNER: I'm going to finish up school this next year and get my degree in business, and then I'm going to take close to a year and practice and work on my game. And then I'm going to try -- then I'm going to turn pro. Probably the beginning of the following year after I graduate. So I'll take that summer and that winter and practice and work on my game and keep doing some weight training, things like that, and get ready to turn pro.

Q. Will you have any competition without college golf? In going to school, will you be able to play competitively at all?

CHARLIE WOERNER: Yes, there's tournaments like this, even during the school year. There's not as many, maybe a handful. But there's still a few tournaments, and there's a lot of mini-Tour pro tournaments you can play in as an Amateur, also. I know a lot of guys do that.

Q. Do you have a wedding date?

CHARLIE WOERNER: It's a long engagement. It's about a three-year engagement. She's going to medical school; so don't want to screw up the loans or anything like that.

Q. It's three years at this point, or it will be three years?

CHARLIE WOERNER: It's three years -- it's her junior year of -- it's the winter of her junior year, definitely excited, though.

Q. Who caddied for you?

CHARLIE WOERNER: A real good friend of mine named Jason Stevens. He's from Menlo Park, and we used to work at Stanford together and practice every day together.

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